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OwensMom 01-15-2006, 05:17 PM Well I'm a little puzzled as to Owen's reaction to dairy products. He is breastfed and I still eat dairy products and he is fine with that. But as soon as I give him anything dairy he will vomit and get all miserable.
Anybody ever have that reaction?
I always assumed that if he was intolerant that I couldn't have anything dairy either. I did stop all dairy when he was younger but once I started adding it again he didn't have any problems.
It would be nice if somebody has some answers to that one since I can't seem to find something on this subject online.
KaitlynsMom 01-15-2006, 05:23 PM I'm not sure how all that works as I dont breast feed... but I know there are lots of moms that might know something! Good Luck!
Leigh 01-15-2006, 05:26 PM How long did you go without dairy before re-introducing it? And when you say he is fine with you eating dairy I assume you are still BF? And what is it that you are giving him that is dairy and suspect is causing the reaction?
I would say that he could be fine with small amounts of dairy, but intolerance is very subjective. Some kids can tolerate no dairy, others a cup or more a day before symptoms start. If he is intolerant, you are best to stop all dairy for about 2 weeks, including it in your diet. YOU can eat dairy, but he will react to it, so it is best to figure it out from a clean slate.
Watch for the following things:
Milk
Milk Ingredients
Casein
Whey
You will find milk in the oddest of places including luncheon meats, some soups, etc. We are just adding in dairy as of yesterday since we are doing a multiple elimination diet here. It is tough, but worth it for sure. Once you have eliminated it for at least a week, preferably two you can add in a small amount and then increase it slowly. You will see reactions to it if it is a culprit.
Vomiting and misery would definately be signs of both an intolerance and of an allergy.
OwensMom 01-15-2006, 05:31 PM I did it for about a good months when he was about 2 months old and re-introduced it with success.
I tried giving him German cereal which has dairy in it and I also tried it with the a babyfood that had yoghurt in it and he threw up with both of them and is just plain miserable. Plus he does have muscus in his stool when I feed him that but is fine when I eat dairy.
And a big yes, I'm still breastfeeding and going to as long as he wants unless he refuses to stop and mommy has to put her foot down. Don't think it would be too great to still nurse him when he goes off to college. :shock:
Janette 01-15-2006, 06:14 PM When we first switched Evan over to whole milk, we noticed that it made his vomiting tonnes worse. Adding half and half cream had the effect of making it projectile and even more frequent. He was fine with cheeses, cooked puddings and yogourt though.
OwensMom 01-15-2006, 06:20 PM I tried cheese too but to the same effect of vomiting and miserable for the rest of the day.
Maybe he just can't tolerate anymore than I already take in and that he gets thru my breastmilk.
I might actually go dairy free again and than give him some of those foods and see how he does.
melba19 01-15-2006, 06:55 PM I breast fed my son for over a year and never had any problems with dairy in my diet. He was unable to eat any dairy on his own though because it made him vomit,belly hurt,and hives. We did find out that he is allergic to all milk and dairy products til this day and he is now 7yrs old. Now my other son had a horrible time with milk he only required a small amount to make him vomit. He was dx with a dairy allergy and was removed from dairy until he was 6yrs old. He is now able to have milk and dairy in small amounts.
If this continues I would talk to your doc because he could have an actual allery but then also could have a lactose intolerance.
Melanie
OwensMom 01-15-2006, 06:59 PM Thanks for the input Melanie,
I didn't know that this was able since I thought he wouldn't be able to tolerate any dairy. I will bring this up at his next ped visit on the 1st of February.
Minnie 01-15-2006, 07:31 PM Well...
You have to remember that the dairy you eat and he gets through breast milk is already digested and broken down, maybe he just can't handle the whole protein.
Could be a lactose thing as well, but it's sound more like protein sensitivity to me. Maybe not a full out allergy since he can handle your digested milk protein. Plus I would think he would have more of a reaction than just the puking. Like rash or the runs, frothy weird pooh, or even constipation.
Read this
http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/lactose-intolerance.html
OwensMom 01-15-2006, 07:33 PM Minnie,
we are actually battling constipation and he is on lactulose for it
Minnie 01-15-2006, 08:32 PM Oops! Constipation is a possible sign of a sensitivity not allergy? Sorry, It's just so darn confusing.
Could he be constipated from the heart burn meds?
Is his pooh more on the green side of the spectrum? Could mean a hind/fore milk imbalance. That's easily remedied by only offering one breast at every feeding, and each feeding offering the opposite breast that was used for the last. Instead of switching during one feed.
You might find this link helpful
http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/food-sensitivity.html
I hope you figure whatever is going on out soon.
Good luck!
I hope I helped and didn't make things even more confusing for you
thepeach80 01-15-2006, 09:04 PM It's not lactose as bm has more lactose than milk products. Minnie is right in that it's extremely broken down through your milk, that's why most babies who can't handle milk based formulas, can handle hypo formulas, same concept. AJ didn't seem to react to my milk, but reacted to milk based formulas mildly and it got worse w/ whole milk, so we failed soy too and moved on to rice. I went dairy free at Evan's birth, but messed up a few times and he reacted, he's now on Neocate. Constipation is a sign he's not handling something, that was AJ's biggest sign, now he gets diarrhea, but anyways. lol I would go completely dairy free again and see what happens. Many moms miss small signs that there's a problem b/c they're so used to it happening day in and day out. Hopefully going dairy free again will help you see the signs more clearly.
Carla 01-16-2006, 12:25 AM I would not give him anymore milk products until he is older because if you try again and he reacts again, he could develop a full blwon allergy. The repeated exposures is what does it. If he tolerates it in your breastmilk, I would continue to eat it yourself because the small amounts allows his body to develop what it needs to tolerate it. You shouldn't risk giving it to him until at least after one--at that age his digestive system has atured dramatically and he may be able to do small amounts easily. We didn't remove it frommy daughter's diet at the time because we didn't know and now she has a full blown allergy--her reaction is way worse older than it was younger because she continued to get it.
OwensMom 01-16-2006, 02:53 AM Oops! Constipation is a possible sign of a sensitivity not allergy? Sorry, It's just so darn confusing.
Could he be constipated from the heart burn meds?
Is his pooh more on the green side of the spectrum? Could mean a hind/fore milk imbalance. That's easily remedied by only offering one breast at every feeding, and each feeding offering the opposite breast that was used for the last. Instead of switching during one feed.
I hope you figure whatever is going on out soon.
Good luck!
I hope I helped and didn't make things even more confusing for you
No not confusing at all.
His pooh usually isn't green, he only takes on breast at every feeding since he has been really little and it works out great for us.
Looking back on things he started getting constipated when we started solids but we also started Prilosec at the same time. Thanks for pointing that out to me.
OwensMom 01-16-2006, 02:54 AM It's not lactose as bm has more lactose than milk products. Minnie is right in that it's extremely broken down through your milk, that's why most babies who can't handle milk based formulas, can handle hypo formulas, same concept. AJ didn't seem to react to my milk, but reacted to milk based formulas mildly and it got worse w/ whole milk, so we failed soy too and moved on to rice. I went dairy free at Evan's birth, but messed up a few times and he reacted, he's now on Neocate. Constipation is a sign he's not handling something, that was AJ's biggest sign, now he gets diarrhea, but anyways. lol I would go completely dairy free again and see what happens. Many moms miss small signs that there's a problem b/c they're so used to it happening day in and day out. Hopefully going dairy free again will help you see the signs more clearly.
I will do so and pay attention to anything that might change while dairy free and won't give him anymore dairy anymore. Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it.
OwensMom 01-16-2006, 02:59 AM I would not give him anymore milk products until he is older because if you try again and he reacts again, he could develop a full blwon allergy. The repeated exposures is what does it. If he tolerates it in your breastmilk, I would continue to eat it yourself because the small amounts allows his body to develop what it needs to tolerate it. You shouldn't risk giving it to him until at least after one--at that age his digestive system has atured dramatically and he may be able to do small amounts easily. We didn't remove it frommy daughter's diet at the time because we didn't know and now she has a full blown allergy--her reaction is way worse older than it was younger because she continued to get it.
Thanks for the input, I will stop dairy all together until he is at least a year old than. Don't want him to get a full blown allergy to it if I can prevent it.
thepeach80 01-16-2006, 06:11 AM I'm not sure I agree w/ you eating dairy still to give his immune system what it needs to tolerate dairy. That goes against everything I've ever heard and read. I would reccomend finding an allergist and just asking questions, or your GI dr might even know, our 2nd one was very knowledgable w/ MSPI.
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