View Full Version : Can you believe what the school did?


Leigh
01-09-2006, 05:45 PM
We are doing the multiple food elimination diet here. I put a note into Walker's school bag explaining this and asking them to cancel his lunch milk and give it to someone who needs it for the next week. Daycare is aware that everyone minus Iain is on this diet. I even went so far as to label the children on their clothing this morning with a big "ON RESTRICTED DIET... SEE NOTE".

The school gave Walker milk for lunch.:mad: I do not know yet what this means to the diet, I am hoping that keeping him off it until next Saturday should still be fine. ARG!

On a postive note, discontinuing our rice milk has got rid of the scoots in Walker and Curran. This diet is really hard to do.

sixdogssixcats
01-09-2006, 05:47 PM
I'm glad the diet is working, even with one minor setback.

Emily M
01-09-2006, 08:53 PM
Don't you get so frustrated with people who don't pay attention? :withstup: What if it could have made your son really sick?? I used to work at a daycare/preschool and we had a little boy who couldn't have apple products, the teacher in his room was constantly giving him applesauce. (See above again! ) Anyway, I hope that things get easier!:)

Leigh
01-09-2006, 09:45 PM
Walker actually went to bed with a headache. I do not know if it is related or not. He is a big milk drinker prior to this diet, but gets blood red ears and stuffiness all the time.

It makes me so mad as the note I included in the bag is not opened. I am taping another message to my son for tomorrow and will try to call the school again. **fume**

Emily M
01-10-2006, 08:33 AM
I hope that the school pays attention today. I would think since you taped a sign to your child, they would take the time to read it!
Good luck and have a good day
Let us know how it goes!:)

Janette
01-10-2006, 08:53 AM
Leigh, does Walker have a planner to put the note in? If not, I'd make sure that he promises to give it to his teacher. She should have caught it with a note on HIM though. How frustrating! At the very least, the students handing out the milk should have noticed...or so you'd think. Didn't he tell them that he's not supposed to have it?...Or maybe being a little boy it didn't even cross his mind, eh?

ZacsMom
01-10-2006, 08:58 AM
ARG! How frustrating!! I'd call the school for sure. What if he had had a horrible allergy to milk and that happened? Then what? GRRR I was wondering the same thing Janette was...did he forget he wasn't supposed to have it?
By the way...what did you mean by discontinuing the rice milk had "gotten rid of the scoots"??? :oops:

LaurensMommy
01-10-2006, 09:17 AM
Oh how stupid people can be. They need to start paying attention. Like someone else said, it could have made him really sick. Call the school, definitely.

Just don't send him to school with it written across his forehead.:smt003 :-D

Noah's Mom
01-10-2006, 09:20 AM
Leigh

Did you honestly label your son? That's too funny! I can't believe that didn't get the point across. What morons. I hope this crazy diet does some good for you. AND, I hope the school cooperates better in the future.

ElisMom
01-10-2006, 11:40 AM
How frustrating Leigh! I would be ticked too, all that work and then one set back to muff it all up, hopefully, it won't affect things and you can just continue on!

OwensMom
01-10-2006, 12:26 PM
Don't you love when they don't listen to instructions. What if he gotten really sick from the milk.
That's a nice thing about Jonathan's school, I can email his teacher and let her know. Plus they have a folder that the teacher aid checks first thing in the morning.
I hope this won't happen again and that they pay closer attention.

lucyinaz
01-10-2006, 01:00 PM
Good grief! Hmm... maybe if you tatooed the note in bright neon ink?

Make sure you tell him that he is NOT to drink any milk, even if someone gives it to him!!!!!

Leigh
01-10-2006, 08:38 PM
Yes, I did label both boys and did it again today, back and front of their clothes this time. Daycare "gets" it, school did not, but they did after the phone call today and the note was out of his bag.

Last year I know they went through each bag and we had a great communication thingy going on, but not this year with Walker's teachers. Sometimes things will bounce for a few weeks before they are taken out. Maybe it is because he has two schools to deal with? He goes to a speech and language school in the afternoon.

Funny thing is that they are usually very good about things like this, or so I thought. Curran was going in September to early December and maybe it is because he carries an epipen for peanut and treenut allergy, but they put a picuture of him on the door so any substitute knows who he is and they keep the epi in the room. This is different, I suppose as it is just to see intolerances and mild allergies in both the boys and Walker does have the milk program there, so they probably think this is all odd.

What amazes me is that Walker has the runs again. He has no fever, no signs of illness whatsoever. He told me he did not want to be "rude" when they gave him the milk! Imagine that! Turkey. I swear he would sell me in an instant if it meant some milk right now.

You know, I had contemplated writing it on their foreheads, but I am getting that this would be a bad idea?!:razz:

By the way, Curran is fantastic. Really weird. He is calmer, notably so. Daycare said he was GREAT today and he sat on the couch and snuggled tonight again. Usually he can only snuggle for about 5 minutes at a time. Maybe I am just hoping too much, but I think food is indeed his trigger. He had another blowout of poop again tonight, requiring a shower. Then again, that IS normal for him.

Sara, the "scoots" would be your garden variety diarrhea.

ZacsMom
01-11-2006, 07:43 AM
LoL thanks leigh ;) And that too funny about Walker not wanting to be rude. Turkey, indeed. LOL
Sounds great that Curran seems to be improving somewhat after this new diet, lets hope you find the trigger! <fingers crossed>

LaurensMommy
01-11-2006, 07:55 AM
When do they start snuggling? I'm dying to know because Lauren will hardly ever let me even hold her, only when we're in a strange place or around a strange person. I can't get her to sit still even after a bottle. I want to SNUGGLE!!

Oh, the only other time I get to hold her is fresh out of the tubby when I can wrap her arms up and hold her again like a newborn. I love it! until she starts screaming and wants to be able to move her arms.

sixdogssixcats
01-11-2006, 08:03 AM
Can't help you, Sandy! LOL I'm still waiting for a snuggle myself.

ZacsMom
01-11-2006, 08:13 AM
I dunno Sandy, but Zac has started rubbing my shoulder when I'm holding him on my hip, which is the sweetest thing

Leigh
01-11-2006, 09:27 PM
Not to be a downer, but often kids with food allergies are not snugglers. I will have to find the quote for that in the book I am living in presently.

Of course, some kids are just not snuggly regardless. Iain is a snuggler, but he does not want to face INTO you, he wants to have his back to you and basically sit on you. He has been that way as long as I can remember.

I love my snuggles. I had time tonight again where all three boys were plastered on me snuggling. **sigh** That is not the norm, though I wish it was.

Emily M
01-11-2006, 09:51 PM
Not to be a downer, but often kids with food allergies are not snugglers. I will have to find the quote for that in the book I am living in presently.

Of course, some kids are just not snuggly regardless. Iain is a snuggler, but he does not want to face INTO you, he wants to have his back to you and basically sit on you. He has been that way as long as I can remember.

I love my snuggles. I had time tonight again where all three boys were plastered on me snuggling. **sigh** That is not the norm, though I wish it was.\

YOu must tell me the name of the book you are reading. I know you posted about it once before, but I forgot!:sad1: We think that Jackson is allergic to milk, the dr. does anyway, with his last reaction to his formula after we made a switch.
Glad that you got snuggles tonight. I am still in the newborn snuggling stage, not wanting it to end, though I know that it will.:confused:

Leigh
01-11-2006, 10:17 PM
Oh, how I loved the infant snuggle!:-D

The book is called "Is This Your Child" by Dr. Doris Rapp, allergist. It is a fascinating read.

Here is the section on snuggling with infants. Page 103

Common Signs of Possible Infant Allergy

prolonged colic
excessive spitting
repeated vomiting
diarrhea and/or constipation
congestion of nose or chest
eczema or itchy rashes
restlessness
screaming or prolonged crying
dislike of cuddling
need to be walked and bounced
excessive drooling
extreme perspiration
excessive crib rocking
head banging
walking by seven to nine months
repeated ear infections
genital touching
reluctance to stay dressed
rapid pulse
demand for constant attention


Of course many of these things can be considered normal as well. You have to look at the overall picture. There are also major physical complaints of toddlers and behaviour characteristics as well. When I started researching Curran's behaviour issues (and was buying parenting books thinking I am the worlds worst Mother and am missing something) I came across it and picked it up as Curran has a peanut, treenut, and milk allergy that we know of already.

I have some other allergy books which are good too but this one is great.

Mary
01-12-2006, 01:03 PM
Sorry I'm late again...just read your post.

I have anaphylactic allergies to shellfish, strawberries and certain types of fish. I carry my epi pen and I'm very careful about that stuff. Everyone who knows me also knows my allergy, where I keep the pen and how to use it if something happens and I can't get to it. That being said, I still have people who think it's no big deal ("just take the strawberry garnish off the dessert and you'll be fine", etc.).

Similar with Bethy--she has a dairy intolerance and we don't give her milk/milk products (no anaphylaxis, just terrible cramps, vomiting and constipation). I can't tell you how many times I've had to argue with some well-meaning person (or, perhaps not...) who insists that "a little milk won't hurt her".

I think that people who don't have food allergies or sensitivities just do NOT understand how important it is to avoid the offending food. I'm sorry your little "turkey" got ahold of milk. Perhaps you should post a large sign on his shirt that says something along the lines of, "Caution: Ingesting milk will cause my head to spin around on its axis while I projectile vomit everywhere and poop in my pants. Give me that carton at your own risk".

On a lighter note, isn't it nice that you've raised a child who is sensitive to others' feelings and wants to be polite? (Nevermind that he'd sell his own mother...) :-D :-D :-D

Leigh
01-12-2006, 09:35 PM
Thank you for that, Mary!:-D I am easing up on Curran and his peanut allergy as his challenges thus far have been great, I still have to get him up to toddler portion, though. It is the other nuts we have to do that scare me, such as cashew since he has never had one in his life and his RAST is actually higher for that.:-?

I can not believe that people would tell you to just pick off the strawberries!:shock: On second thought, I can. My last daycare knew of Curran's allergy and gave us some Easter chocolate for him... yes, it was not peanut free. That rather bothered me until I put her straight. Funny how people do not think twice of it. If Curran was more reactive to it I would place him in a bubble as I could not take the stress of wondering if someone was not being careful.

Definately I am taking your suggestion to heart and will label the children with your sign suggestion! Maybe THAT would get their attention.:razz:

ZacsMom
01-13-2006, 07:30 AM
Sorry I'm late again...just read your post.

I have anaphylactic allergies to shellfish, strawberries and certain types of fish. I carry my epi pen and I'm very careful about that stuff. Everyone who knows me also knows my allergy, where I keep the pen and how to use it if something happens and I can't get to it. That being said, I still have people who think it's no big deal ("just take the strawberry garnish off the dessert and you'll be fine", etc.).
Not mentioning any names eh Mary?? LOL... **cough** Hack** MIL *COUGH*

Leigh
01-13-2006, 09:23 PM
Subtle, really subtle there Sara!


**passing the cough syrup**

LOL

EmmasMommy
01-13-2006, 09:33 PM
Too funny! :-D

Emily M
01-14-2006, 08:27 AM
Oh, how I loved the infant snuggle!:-D

The book is called "Is This Your Child" by Dr. Doris Rapp, allergist. It is a fascinating read.

Here is the section on snuggling with infants. Page 103

Common Signs of Possible Infant Allergy

prolonged colic
excessive spitting
repeated vomiting
diarrhea and/or constipation
congestion of nose or chest
eczema or itchy rashes
restlessness
screaming or prolonged crying
dislike of cuddling
need to be walked and bounced
excessive drooling
extreme perspiration
excessive crib rocking
head banging
walking by seven to nine months
repeated ear infections
genital touching
reluctance to stay dressed
rapid pulse
demand for constant attention


Of course many of these things can be considered normal as well. You have to look at the overall picture. There are also major physical complaints of toddlers and behaviour characteristics as well. When I started researching Curran's behaviour issues (and was buying parenting books thinking I am the worlds worst Mother and am missing something) I came across it and picked it up as Curran has a peanut, treenut, and milk allergy that we know of already.

I have some other allergy books which are good too but this one is great.
Ok, those symptoms are all too familiar! I am ordering the book this morning from Amazon. Jackson's heartrate was 180 the whole time I was pregnant. I thought he was a girl, even after they told me he was a boy. Hmmm, could this have been a sign??? And he has already rolled over! It says early walking. Jackson is only 3 months old so I thought this was really early! :shock: And, my mother thinks that Jackson is spoiled already, when we are out shopping he screams if no one is talking to him. Once you tallk to him he is fine, laughs! TOO WEIRD :shock:

ZacsMom
01-14-2006, 08:49 AM
genital touching???? That's an odd one, as most ALL of my preschool boys did that :shock:
And Zac arleady found HIS! :shock: :shock: LOL!! His hand accidentally slipped down there when he was sitting up in the tub...his eyes got real big...and he started laughing! It was HYSTERICAL!!

Mary
01-14-2006, 11:34 AM
Not mentioning any names eh Mary?? LOL... **cough** Hack** MIL *COUGH*

*ROFL* Very subtle, Mrs. Esterhouse! (Apologies for the Caddyshack reference)

As for the "genital touching" mentioned by Dr. Rapp, I guess all my neices and nephews must have RAMPANT food allergies! *lol*

On a more serious note, how does she correlate this to a food allergy? Are the genetalia suceptible to rash? (like a yeast infection sort of thing?)

Leigh
01-14-2006, 11:49 AM
Let us face it- all boys (little and big!!:razz: ) seem to have this problem of genital touching...

This is what she has to say about it:

"Infants often begin to touch or 'dig at' their gentials as soon as their diaper is removed and sometimes even while it is being worn. Young children cause disturbances in the classroom and at home becasue they can not stop touching their genitals. This is often attributed to tight underwear or clothing, or to pinworms. In my experience this is very commonly due to an unsuspected overgrowth of yeast after the repeated need for anitbiotics. After proper therapy this complaint disappears, along with the red rectal area, white coloured tongue, and smelly hair and feet.
Of course, the various medical conditions of many of the children just described are not scientifically documented observations. They do, however, represent cause-and-effect relationships helped by the recognition and treatment of the source of their illness. Surprisingly, many parents find answers in a similar manner merely by watching their children more carefully."

Hope that helps. I know that Curran and Iain have had yeast infections galore over the years but they have had every illness seemingly as well and lived on antibiotics. Walker not so much and only in retrospect do I think he had yeast infections but nothing really confirmed.

Emily M
01-14-2006, 03:40 PM
Let us face it- all boys (little and big!!:razz: ) seem to have this problem of genital touching...

This is what she has to say about it:

"Infants often begin to touch or 'dig at' their gentials as soon as their diaper is removed and sometimes even while it is being worn. Young children cause disturbances in the classroom and at home becasue they can not stop touching their genitals. This is often attributed to tight underwear or clothing, or to pinworms. In my experience this is very commonly due to an unsuspected overgrowth of yeast after the repeated need for anitbiotics. After proper therapy this complaint disappears, along with the red rectal area, white coloured tongue, and smelly hair and feet.
Of course, the various medical conditions of many of the children just described are not scientifically documented observations. They do, however, represent cause-and-effect relationships helped by the recognition and treatment of the source of their illness. Surprisingly, many parents find answers in a similar manner merely by watching their children more carefully."

Hope that helps. I know that Curran and Iain have had yeast infections galore over the years but they have had every illness seemingly as well and lived on antibiotics. Walker not so much and only in retrospect do I think he had yeast infections but nothing really confirmed.
I don't know about you guys but I look forward to the smelly hair and feet! :-D
I ordered the book this morning, I am looking forward to getting it! :razz:

Emily M
01-14-2006, 03:41 PM
genital touching???? That's an odd one, as most ALL of my preschool boys did that :shock:
And Zac arleady found HIS! :shock: :shock: LOL!! His hand accidentally slipped down there when he was sitting up in the tub...his eyes got real big...and he started laughing! It was HYSTERICAL!!
LOL! :smt047 That is so funny!