Zoee has gone from hard little ball poops to now semi soft to diahra poops now. The color has changed as well. It has gone from dark brown to at itmes white to a light whitish yelllow color. Sorry to be gross! :oops: Thanks goodness for this site b/c where else can you talk poop? :roll: Any way, this has well started when the thickened liquids and Prevaid started. So is this the med or the thickened liquids? Any thoughts?



Shannon

Is she on any solids? Did it start after she started on the Prevacid or after starting the thickened liquids? Or did she start both at the same time? Does she have any symptoms of another illness?

Zoee eats table foods now. Yes it did start when the thickened liquids started. We started the liquids and the med five days a part. I think that I will recall the Gi and ask. I called yesterday to give an update on how she is doing on the Prevaid and was going to ask then but no call back. I am beginning to think that these people think that i am off my rocker! MMMM, Maybe I am! :lol: No other signs of any other illness. I think that it is just me! :roll:


Shannon

I am beginning to think that these people think that i am off my rocker! MMMM, Maybe I am! :lol: No other signs of any other illness. I think that it is just me! :roll:
No, I don't think so, Shannon! You're right that there shouldn't be so many changes in her poops.

BTW, I just sent you an e-mail about something else, and it was returned. The e-mail address in your profile isn't working. Can you please e-mail me the correct one?

Just an FYI, Shannon, Daniel's poop changed when he started the prevacid -- softer and smellier! I'd almost forgotten about that since he's had this nasty, nasty stuff for so long now.

thanks Becky! That is abit more reassuring to me that the poops may be from the Prevaid.

I know for some reason that email doesn't work, janette. :? I will PM you a different one.


Shannon

I know for some reason that email doesn't work, janette. :? I will PM you a different one.
Thanks Shannon. I got your PM and have added the correct e-mail address to my address book.

Katerina fought with consitpation and breastmilk "explosions". LOL Other then that I am poopy inexperienced.

Katerina fought with consitpation and breastmilk "explosions". LOL Other then that I am poopy inexperienced.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Teresa, hope you will not become to poop experiences!

I talked with the Gi nurse.She had said that the Prevaid may be acting as a laxative and that is why Zoee is having the semisoft to daihra. As for color she will ask the doctor about that. She had asked if Zoee was on Iron? Does anyone know why she would ask that? So We willsee what the doctor says now.

Does too much iron loosen things up, too? I think Lesley mentioned something about that at last night's chat.

Oh shoot, see what happens when I miss the chats! :roll: :lol: I was wondering if lack of iron gave the white ish light grainy kindas of poop. We'll see maybe next week.



Shannon

From a nursing perspective, too much iron could darken the poopy. Oh wait, maybe I am a Poopy Phd LOLOLOLOLOL

Emma just started Prevacid and her poops are now really dark green, (she's on Goodstart...so green is "normal"), but today they were light green with yellow "seedy" things in them.....

She's always had diarrea-like poop from the Mylanta....it will be interesting to see if her poop is still runny when we take her off the Mylanta in a few weeks............

Probably didn't help much, but thought I'd add in Emma's poop bio!

Probably didn't help much, but thought I'd add in Emma's poop bio!

Well, why not!

Catherine has always had runny light brownish-green poop on ALimentum, but it's become a little thicker and seedy and more brown that she's taken a bite or two of cereal.

it's become a little thicker and seedy and more brown that she's taken a bite or two of cereal.

ah-ha....maybe that's why it's seedier.....she's started, uninterestedly, (is that a word??), eating about 1/2 a teaspoon of cereal each day....she hates the stuff!

ah-ha....maybe that's why it's seedier.....she's started, uninterestedly, (is that a word??), eating about 1/2 a teaspoon of cereal each day....she hates the stuff!

Glad to see mine isn't the only one! This is another area where mentally it's difficult for me not to compare because Catherine's peers are all reaching for food from their parents' plates and just gobbling up cereal, fruits and veggies (as reported in my Yahoo January babies group, to which I belong just to torture myself :twisted: ). Catherine has zero interest in solids. I don't think it's a taste issue, because nothing could taste worse than Alimentum. I just don't think she like to have anything in her mouth at this point other than a bottle. I'm going to wait it out until 6 months and see if she still isn't receptive and then maybe I'll raise the issue with her dr.

Prevacid gave Alexys really runny yucky poops too. Just thought I'd throw some poop experience in too :)

Zoee has gone from hard little ball poops to now semi soft to diahra poops now. The color has changed as well. It has gone from dark brown to at itmes white to a light whitish yelllow color. Sorry to be gross! :oops: Thanks goodness for this site b/c where else can you talk poop? :roll: Any way, this has well started when the thickened liquids and Prevaid started. So is this the med or the thickened liquids? Any thoughts?



Shannon

The change in stool consistancy and colour could be a result of the prevacid, but like a previous post Iain's poop went soft and green with mucous in it. Then he started the diarrhea with green poops. The colour that you are describing of being white and yellow colour indicates "old stool" according to gastro. It means that she is constipated and the diarrhea is the run off poop occuring. It is the same as what Curran goes through... sorry. :shock: I bet the poop smells really charming.... Keep a log of her poops and note the colour and consistancy for the GI. It changes usually from the light colours (which darken in the air by the way) to the normal darker colours once the old stool is passed.

I would imagine the nurse would have asked about the iron as it is known for causing great constipation in kidlets.

Leigh

MMm, that is interesting, Leigh! I am so obsessed when it comes to her poops that i didn't need a log b/c I remeber all their poops. I need to get alife! :lol: :oops: Any way, Zoee has had constipated since she was 31/2 months. They had her on Colace and this other stuff that has been mention on the board but I can't think of the name. I was giving it all the time to her and just stop b/c it was not working any more. She has been to poop without the pain or hurting her little butt anymore so I though that it was fine. i figure that the round hard poop were just b/c she was on that much more solids and that they should be hard. I guess I was wrong. I will have to see what the Gi says. Hopefully she will call back on Monday or Tuesday. The diahra is about 4 x a day. The color is still a light color. It has not darken at all since all of this has started three weeks ago. I really do think that the Gi will not call back till we see her in July. Will update when I hear some thing!

Shannon

Sorry Shannon for the delay in responding... Iain bashed the computer mouse! :lol:

I know all about Iain and Curran's poop, but you would be so surprised by some patterns that develop if you keep a poop log. Also, it does show proof to the GI that it is a chronic concern and can rule out some things. We really do need to get lives when we can talk about poop and actually have a conversation.... :shock: :lol:

Did the GI call back?

Leigh

Glad to see mine isn't the only one! This is another area where mentally it's difficult for me not to compare because Catherine's peers are all reaching for food from their parents' plates and just gobbling up cereal, fruits and veggies (as reported in my Yahoo January babies group, to which I belong just to torture myself :twisted: ). Catherine has zero interest in solids. I don't think it's a taste issue, because nothing could taste worse than Alimentum. I just don't think she like to have anything in her mouth at this point other than a bottle. I'm going to wait it out until 6 months and see if she still isn't receptive and then maybe I'll raise the issue with her dr.

I know....our ped wants us to start cereal twice a day when she's 4 1/2 months. GREAT! :roll: Emma, like I said, has zero interest in solids as well. She didn't even like the applesauce that she was eating with her Prevacid!

I, jokingly, said to my ped that it would be nice to feed Emma her cereal with a medicine dropper because when she sees that coming she opens her mouth wide! :shock: When she sees the spoon she, (I swear), seems to give me this look like, "you're going to have to try really hard to get that spoon near me!" :?

Oh well...like you said....wait for that 6 month marker.....but I know what you mean....I "subscribe" to another email/website that emails these developmental milestones that your baby is supposed to be reaching. I always read them and either feel frustrated or worried...... :(

Lesley, I had the 4 month intro to solids turn into a wait and see if he outgrows his "strong gag reflex" as they did not think of GERD for my silent refluxer back then. At each stage he still refused to take even puree or cereal and it was only once he was diagnosed at 14 months that he really "began" to take puree solids. I am sitting here with a near 17 month old toddler just learning how to eat puree and mouth other foods and OT is telling me it could take 9 months to a year to have him eating like a toddler. I have a 17 month old toddler on puree and formula and have to treat him like he is 4 months old.

I am not saying that to scare you, but if I knew then what I know now I would have bolted for OT and help back then. At least you KNOW that Catherine has GERD and have meds, so the doc should be willing to offer some help in form of OT to her now rather than having the same nightmare we have had. 6 months old would be the latest that I would wait.

Leigh

Leigh, No, It doesn't surprise me! They never called till I call them. I am going to talk to the metbolic specialist this week and see what she thinks. I know that they are going to do blood work b/c thye called me today to tell me that hse had to fast for friday appointment. So that may be good.

Emmamommy( Sorry i forgot your name :oops: ) I worry too about the milestones. At 41/2 months, she may not be ready for soilds, just like you said. I think that why the they say before 4 -6 months. Doctor are weird when they say they should be able to eat solids at 4 months. Not every baby can. As for other developemental steps, they always have a low start age and a late age. Example is Zoee is 13 months on Saturday and not walking yet, furniture walking yes, but she wouldn't stand on her own yet or hold your hand to take a step. When I looked the agefor waliking is 10- 16months. So there is time for her to catch up. I know it is hard not to worry, but if you are ask the doctor about an OT to see if she is where she should be. :D


Shannon

Milestones are difficult to determine sometimes. I was so worried over Walker not walking until he was 14 months of age, but it is normal. He was cruising earlier and I blamed the caregiver's weiner dog for his delay in walking as Hugo kept pulling Walker down everytime he tried to walk. It was actually rather funny... :lol: We felt a false sense of security when Curran came about and were completely unprepared when he got up at the age of 9 months to the day and walked. 8) Iain walked at 12 months and a few days.

As far as feeding goes, you are correct Shannon, not all babies are ready at 4 months. Perhaps I am a bit pushy when it comes to feeds now as Iain was ready developmentally for 4 months and only started at 14 months due to such a late diagnosis. I am rather neurotic about it all as I hate to think of someone else being in our situtation with a toddler on stage one foods. 6 months seems to be a good age to me, but as every child is different then each Mother will have to rely on their instinct to determine whether or not a problem exists. The doctors seem to allow some huge delays for this as well since our ped was going to refer us to OT only when he turned 2 if he still was not eating by then. Looking back, I feel that I could have been much more pushy and demanding as I KNEW something was wrong.

Leigh

At least you KNOW that Catherine has GERD and have meds, so the doc should be willing to offer some help in form of OT to her now rather than having the same nightmare we have had. 6 months old would be the latest that I would wait. Leigh

Oh I'll jump on it at six months. Some of it may also be a maturity issue. Catherine was four weeks early (which isn't much compared to others on here) but it can set her back comparatively speaking. She's technically just turned 4 months instead of 5; however, she has no other delays related to her slight prematurity. She can't begin to sit up unsupported, but I don't think that's an issue yet either.

Emmamommy( Sorry i forgot your name :oops: ) I worry too about the milestones. At 41/2 months, she may not be ready for soilds, just like you said. I think that why the they say before 4 -6 months. Doctor are weird when they say they should be able to eat solids at 4 months. Not every baby can. As for other developemental steps, they always have a low start age and a late age. Example is Zoee is 13 months on Saturday and not walking yet, furniture walking yes, but she wouldn't stand on her own yet or hold your hand to take a step. When I looked the agefor waliking is 10- 16months. So there is time for her to catch up. I know it is hard not to worry, but if you are ask the doctor about an OT to see if she is where she should be. :D


Shannon

Thanks Shannon....that's okay, (it's Amanda).....that makes me feel better. Emma's developmentally doing okay except she hasn't rolled over from front to back yet and our ped's freaking out! I think that's hard to do! She just now, (today) rolled from back to side, both ways.........she loves it! I found her in her crib this morning rolling around like one of those little ball bugs!
:lol:

Oh I'll jump on it at six months. Some of it may also be a maturity issue. Catherine was four weeks early (which isn't much compared to others on here) but it can set her back comparatively speaking. She's technically just turned 4 months instead of 5; however, she has no other delays related to her slight prematurity. She can't begin to sit up unsupported, but I don't think that's an issue yet either.

Good point Lesley. I agree with the 6 month cut-off. Emma was a week late so I'm not giving her any breaks! :wink: (I'm kidding!!!)

She just now, (today) rolled from back to side, both ways.........she loves it! I found her in her crib this morning rolling around like one of those little ball bugs! :lol:

Catherine does that, too! As soon as I put her in her crib. She has to have a blanket and balls herself up in it. It's just the cutest thing! She can't roll front to back, sit up without being totally supported and I'm still waiting for a laugh.

Catherine does that, too! As soon as I put her in her crib. She has to have a blanket and balls herself up in it. It's just the cutest thing! She can't roll front to back, sit up without being totally supported and I'm still waiting for a laugh.

How sweet...with the blanket. Emma actually loves to hold onto something when she's sleeping....either our hands or a blanket. I guess for security reasons. :)

Emma hasn't laughed really either. She'll open her mouth in this huge grin but no sound comes out. Maybe it hurts to laugh....so sad, if that's true. :cry:

Just the other day she learned to squeal and now she's doing it nonstop. I can't take her out in public....it sounds like cats fighting!

Just the other day she learned to squeal and now she's doing it nonstop. I can't take her out in public....it sounds like cats fighting!

Ha! All I get is an "errrrrr" sound every now and then. She does smile more now.

She does smile more now.

Yeah, Catherine! She's too cute! :lol:

Zoee is not a big laughter either. She does giggle but you didn't get a big laugh from her. She loves to smile! :D

I bet she looks so cute when she smiles.....

Your kids have great noses! (I know...I"m weird, but I'm a nose person) :oops:

They're so cute....they look like those Cabbage Patch doll noses.....perfect!

Emma's is kind of turned up on the tip....I call her my little piggy :snorting:

Thanks Amanda! Emma is soo cute! I like her new picture as well! :D

Thanks! (I'm still jealous of your kids' noses....) :lol:

:lol: :lol: Amanda!

GI called back to day and they didn't care about her weight or the diahra. They want me just to keep doing what I am doing for 2 week then Zoee see her. Grrrr.....They are not taking the constant wanting of the bottle serious. The nurse made me feel that i was over feeding her and that she is doing it for comfort and I need to make it stop. Well, if they can tell me now I will!so i guess I will fight witht hem in two weeks.

Emma went through that for awhile...eating constantly...I found out she was actually hungry! She was draining each bottle at the time so I made each bottle an ounce larger and she started to demand less feeds because I think it made her feel fuller, longer...(does that make sense?). I actually miss that Emma used to seem so hungry all the time. :oops: Now she can put off eating for HOURS (until she's starved) and acts stressed when she's taking the bottle..... :(

My ped said that a "healthy weight gain" is anywhere from 1/2 ounce to 1 ounce per day or 1/2 pound a week. I can't remember how much weight you said she gained....but I think you're smart to stay on this. I'm sure your "instinct" is telling you something. I've learned...in a short time...that "instinct" is pretty accurate every now and then! :)

Zoee is still always hungry but after last night not being able to feed her bottle in the middle of the night which she screamed for for an hour then went back to sleep and it now being 7:30 and her not even crying for a bottle has me think that maybe it is me overfeeding her! :shock: :? She has not eaten since 11:45 last night and will not eat till maybe 10 or 11am this morning. Sorry off topic! :D

Zoee has gained 5 lbs since the end of May! I am so obssesed about poops and weight that my Dh :roll: his eyes at me! :lol: He doesn't want to hear it any more. Thank goodness that I can talk the poop talk here! :lol:

Zoee has gained 5 lbs since the end of May! I am so obssesed about poops and weight that my Dh :roll: his eyes at me! :lol: He doesn't want to hear it any more. Thank goodness that I can talk the poop talk here! :lol:

I know....I was talking "poop talk" over dinner last night and my DH said, "Amanda....enough is enough...I'm trying to eat my pork chop!" :roll:

I'm obsessed as well....but they're our kids....that's our job! :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

We frequently talk of poop and stuff as Curran has had this diahrea/chernobyl diaper thing for 18 months now, so it is part of our everyday lives. We really have to think first before talking about it when we are out to dinner...

Leigh