View Full Version : Update on Iain and completion of Hanen program


Leigh
07-05-2006, 08:55 PM
Today we went in for our final Hanen appointment. I was under the impression that it was a taping again but instead I got our tape back. Anyway, it was all about discussing the program and seeing if I had any questions about it all.

Overall, I have to highly reccommend the program. It was incredibly well thought out and makes sense. Although I have been through speech and language with my eldest son who suffered a severe delay as well, he was caught at a later age and I did not get as much background information as I did with this program. This has made me stop and think about almost everything I say and do with Iain, but also has empowered me to use theory and tricks to engage him.

Today we talked about the benefit of the program and I would have to say it was my empowerment and it has helped with frustration levels for Mr. Iain, although not so much today.. more about that later. I am taking it slow and we are now in the "off block" and will not return for assessment until November or December. That is really far too long and I will see if I can scrape up for some private therapy in the meanwhile, although our SLP thinks it is a great idea to get private yet he needs us to go slow and using our Hanen skills may just be fine for now. It is pretty much a foregone conclusion he will continue in speech come the next block unless some big miracle occurs.

We are to focus on about 5 to 10 words (combination of learned words and new words) and do them for one week solid and then switch to another block of words for one week and then return back to the original block again. He is not consistant with his words at all but today she heard pretty much all his repetoire in our session. Again, I hear 5 to 10 words are being used. Again, I argue that saying three words in a group like "Moooo-oh juuuuusss, peeeeaaaaaaassssssssss" (more juice please) counts as three but she says he may just be learning in chunks now and to treat it like one word. Same for "I ya u" (I love you, which I have not heard since the last time I posted, by the way) and his latest aquisition of "let's go". I sort of get what she is saying but I still think of all that as 8 words all told, not 3, you know?! He is indeed inconsitent with his words and maybe he is not on speech strike when he does not talk for a week at a time, I do not know. The idea is to give him more of a base of words to build upon and I understand that completely. Give him the skills to build on.

This morning Iain was in a GREAT mood. Then I picked him up and the second we hit CHEO and were in the entry way he saw about 20 people in the waiting area lobby and freaked. We got by them and I bought some pizza (today's idea for our session was to have a picnic and have him use his words during it for observation. All he did was chew and spit out the pizza. Great. He did however chow on crackers and fruit roll ups so it was not all lost.) as he never gets pizza at home due to Curran's allergies. He started to scream in the cafeteria. And down the hall. A clown approached us and tried to give my screaming child a sticker and that sent him up to shrieking. We continued down the hall and arrived at reception where I shouted out our appointment. We entered the waiting area which is filled with toys and unfortunately people and now the shrieking one would have thought could not get any worse increased to ear splitting. I could not get him to calm down and as I could not lock in on a problem I took him out of the stroller, went through all sorts of checks on him and was left with "this is behavioural" so I left him to scream it out. Other parents said "been there, done that" and "he is soon going to be 2 years old, right?" so I was amongst friends. Along came a worker who kicked me out of the play area within 5 minutes and put us in a private room instead. Never, ever have I been kicked out of a room with him before! In retrospect I think it is hilarious but at the time I did not. Once in the room he just begged for rubs. He lives for sensory rubs, as in he always wants his hands, back, legs, tummy stroked forever. He calmed down until the woman who put us there came in with a glass of water "in case he needed it". Yeah, I sure would not want his mouth to get dry from all that shrieking....

Finally it was time for our meeting and he was pretty good to get there but had several screaming moments in the room. He talked a lot in my opinion and our SLP seemed impressed that he was engaging so well as in the past he has just done his own thing or ran for the door to get out. He did not engage with her at all this time, but I think he was cranky from all the crying. We had our talk about everything and up came his sensory issues. I know he has them, she knows he has them. Due to his severe food aversion for so long, his continuing battle with food, his severe speech and language delay coupled with the fact that in our 45 minute session he had me stroking him for over half of that made her have me sign off on agreeing to a child development screening to be done within the next 3 months. As she said, it will be helpful to know what we are dealing with. I agree but as I have heard autism and aspergers in the past and dispute it I am left with her comment that there is a whole range of things to consider and if we catch it now we can tailor his therapy accordingly. He does have many social problems yet and I have always put them down to speech related. Anyway, I am not going to worry for now as I heard all this with Walker (who actually did fit the bill for some problems, especially with his total lack of eye contact and obsession for lining things up) and Walker is fine. I know Iain is not Walker but I do not think he has any problem other than a big sensory intergration one.

Sorry this is so very long and jumbled. At some point when I get a chance I should post about the Hanen program again as it was really very good to attend. My questions were always a bit more unique and we are the only ones to use sign (which we are to continue with) but the SLPs who conducted the program were spectacular and I did learn so very much. Even though we are struggling yet with his speech and frustration levels I know I have the tools to help him once he has a speech spurt. It would be great to know why he is so very inconsistant with his speech.

sixdogssixcats
07-05-2006, 09:25 PM
I'm so glad you thought the program was worthwhile, Leigh. Catherine is so like Iain, and I wish they could sit in a room and scream together! :toothy10:

Leigh
07-05-2006, 09:35 PM
I'm so glad you thought the program was worthwhile, Leigh. Catherine is so like Iain, and I wish they could sit in a room and scream together! :toothy10:

They can, in about 34 days or so... :haha:

**mental note: get several sets of ear plugs for convention attendees**

Iain does not scream all the time thankfully. One thing I forgot to add is that his threshhold for speech training is very low. We talked today about keeping the sessions very short for him and how very exhausting it is often with him. My SLP was very sympathetic and in tune with that so she told me to just even take his reaching for something as a positive indicator and not to push it as he does not yet have the skills. Understood.

Should prove to be interesting to have Catherine and Iain together. Maybe we should get a decible (sp?) reader and see who can pitch a fit loudest?

sixdogssixcats
07-05-2006, 09:45 PM
How about who turns a darker shade of red??? :rolling:

Leigh
07-05-2006, 09:56 PM
Iain does not actually turn dark shades of red. How about a backarching or head butting contest? Gee, we could do "heats" for a decathalon of events here instead!

Omigosh! I needed this laugh. Thanks Lesley. Having our two redheads together should make for some interesting moments. I have learned to keep on conversing above the shrieking, how about you?

Janette
07-06-2006, 06:46 AM
It has been absolutely fascinating to read everything that you've written about the Hanen Programme these past few months, Leigh, and to compare it what ours was like. I'm kind of surprised, though, that the SLPs doing it were so anti-signing and that you were the only ones signing in the programme, as many of us did in ours. I'll be coming back to this thread again sometime to remember all of the different tricks that we didn't learn (ie, 10 words per week, then switch). Thanks for all of these updates!

scarlet
07-06-2006, 07:53 AM
I am glad that you got so much out of the program, and hope it continues to help him. October does seem like a long way away but they are the experts, that is probably the time needed to see all the progress.

We had a screaming attack with Cooper today, we had a school interview and he wanted to take his eeyore (oh you will all get to meet eeyore), and we said no and he cried and had a patty, so we let him take it in, don't know what the school thought! Truth be told, they probably should have known a bit better than to have clowns etc, these things are just too much for some kids on a good day let alone at a place they are a bit uncomfortable with.

Please keep us updated with his progress.

Leigh
07-06-2006, 10:38 AM
It has been absolutely fascinating to read everything that you've written about the Hanen Programme these past few months, Leigh, and to compare it what ours was like. I'm kind of surprised, though, that the SLPs doing it were so anti-signing and that you were the only ones signing in the programme, as many of us did in ours. I'll be coming back to this thread again sometime to remember all of the different tricks that we didn't learn (ie, 10 words per week, then switch). Thanks for all of these updates!

I am wondering where I gave the impression that they were anti-signing as they were very much pro signing, especially for Iain. Every step of the way it has been made clear that he is so delayed that signing is a GOOD idea and although he is not great at it yet his best few words he does have include signs so he is learning.

Perhaps it is because we are the only family that participated in this Hanen block that use sign language? No one else did and often my questions included signs so others were looking at me like I was from Mars to be usuing signs with an older toddler when they all thought it was for babies only. I met up with two other Moms yesterday as they completed their appointments too and both were surprised to see how delayed Iain is. And how great his lung capacity is...:smt047

The reason for concentrating on 5 to 10 words is to keep reinforcing those that he already knows. By only adding a few new ones we hope to gain consistency in word use as we do not have that now at all. For instance, he can say the word "book" (sounds like "bkkk") but he uses it maybe once every couple of months it seems and only after a model so it is not part of his expressive vocab yet although he darn well knows what a book is, ya know?

I am adding a few more signs again this week to help him out. Some are easier than others and I really have to watch him to make sure I catch the subtleties of his signs. I imagine you know all about that too, Janette.:wink: It is tough to be on the lookout but if I miss any communication with him it just sets him off and he is trying so hard at times and becomes visibly exhausted. Poor fella.

Leigh
07-06-2006, 10:40 AM
I am glad that you got so much out of the program, and hope it continues to help him. October does seem like a long way away but they are the experts, that is probably the time needed to see all the progress.

We had a screaming attack with Cooper today, we had a school interview and he wanted to take his eeyore (oh you will all get to meet eeyore), and we said no and he cried and had a patty, so we let him take it in, don't know what the school thought! Truth be told, they probably should have known a bit better than to have clowns etc, these things are just too much for some kids on a good day let alone at a place they are a bit uncomfortable with.

Please keep us updated with his progress.

Iain has never chosen a "lovey". I wish he would glom onto some toy or blanket or such but he does not. Weird.

The poor clown was surprised, I can still see the look on her face. lol It is good to know that we are pretty much all in the same boat and will be understanding of kidlet meltdowns at the convention!

scarlet
07-06-2006, 10:46 AM
You know what Leigh, I bet all the kids are going to be little angels, we are all going to get out of there going, what was she talking about that child was so good.... but it will be so good being with people who just don't judge, that is hard to find! Whats a little screaming between friends.

BTW Poor clown, but thats what you get for scaring kids, you know clowns are one of the scariest things for a child, Cooper would have freaked, Parker wouldn't have bothered one bit, the clown would have been running from him!LOL

Noah's Mom
07-06-2006, 11:53 AM
Where do I begin? I am so pleased that you found a program that *you* are happy with for Mr. Iain, because moms do know best! All of the tactics that you are using sound like great ideas for Iain's communication, and I hope that he continues to catch on and keep at it. I know he will, because he has a mother that is chuck-full of determination!

I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but laugh when I read that you were kicked out of the waiting room! Now *that* one goes in the baby book! I hope Iain's screaming decreases as he is able to communicate better.

I agree that Iain's need to be rubbed constantly should be addressed. Does that always soothe him when he's upset? I think Noah would bit my hand off if I tried to give him a massage, lol! When will you know about that appointment?

I also think its great that your SLP is willing to work with Iain on the length of the appointments. Its so great that you were able to pinpoint that as a problem, and hopefully, Iain will be in better spirits with shorter sessions in the future.

{{{HUGS}}} Leigh. By November/December, Iain will have so many new skills to show off to his SLP!