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Emily M
03-23-2006, 06:40 AM
milk/soy intolerance. I am thinking that maybe all along Jackson's problem has been lactose. I looked up Nutramigen and it has no lactose in it, so this would make sense that it makes him feel better. Now, with the lactose in the solutabs ***which I am going to ask the dr. about** I am really wondering. when we first put him on the solutabs he has Rotavirus, then after he got over that, he started just throwing up. He has never really been a puker. Can lactose intolerance make you puke????
How do they check for lactose intolerance???

I feel like I am full of questions here lately. I just hate not knowing.
If it is lactose he is intolerant to, it is different than being alllergic to milk, right? There is a difference???
Ok, thanks, any advice or answers are welcome!:wink:

Minnie
03-23-2006, 07:03 AM
Here's a good link about the different types of lactose intolls
http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/lactose-intolerance.html

You could be on to something because tummy illnesses can cause a temporary lactose intoll and make things way worse.
Yes, it can cause vomiting and/or make vomiting worse. Gas, Diarrhea and/or constipation as well.

They usually don't test for lactose intol. It's more of a elimination/re introduction process.

They can test for food/protein allergies by doing an edoscopy, but I don't think it can diagnose protein intollerence or a latose intoll.

scarlet
03-23-2006, 07:04 AM
Emily I really dont know the difference and I never remember when I do know. You can test milk by the normal RAST test I am sure, but in little ones isn't always accurate. An endoscopy can also test for certain allergies.

AndrewsMommy
03-23-2006, 07:10 AM
I agree with Minnie.... If it was all introduced at the time that he got sick, that could have very well done it...Anything Dairy will aggravate your tummy if thier sick with Vomiting...

Definately bring this all up today with his GI!

thepeach80
03-23-2006, 02:53 PM
Unless a child is born w/ LI or it's just temporary from a bug, it generally doesn't show till after age 3-5. A child who is born LI is very ill w/in weeks from birth and if not caught, can die. I dare say Jackson isn't LI. MSPI is a problem w/ the proteins, lactose is the milk sugar. Normal LI symtpoms include green diarrhea, gas, and cramping often w/in 30mins of eating dairy. They don't include constipation or puking. In a baby, LI is actually considered a metabolic disorder (galactosemia) and affects about 1 in 60,000 babies.

There is no test for MSPI. It's diagnosed based on symptoms and reactions to changing diet/formula.

AlexysandAaronsMom
03-23-2006, 03:13 PM
Yes, Lactose Intolerance is VERY rare in babies. As a matter of fact the only mammals that dont naturally produce lactose in their milk are the sea lion and the platypus. (just a bit of FYI for you all) Point being that no matter what you eat, etc you could never make your milk lactose free if you were breastfeeding. My ped gave me all this useless info when i insisted that alexys was lactose intolerant when she was 10 days old:smt016

The lactose in prevacid is medical grade, and my gi told me that it will not affect kids w/ milk sensitivities or allergies. It isnt lactose that causes allergies or sensitivities, but the protein in the milk. It could be that he needs a different med besides prevacid though, they arnt all the same. ALexys did HORRIBLE on prilosec, but prevacid was our miracle drug. He probably does better on the nutramigen because it is more broken down, and easier to digest.

thepeach80
03-23-2006, 09:01 PM
Amy, yes, it's medical grade, but it's near impossible to get all the lactose completely seperated from the milk proteins. It's like those w/ corn allergies and Neocate, while technically they shoudln't react to it, some do.

Emily M
03-23-2006, 09:08 PM
So, is a milk intolerance symptom puking??? He also had watery eyes, runny nose, on regular enfamil **in the beginning** which to me, sounds like a milk allergy. If it is a milk allergy would the lactose in the solutabs bother him as well.
**scratching head** this is all so confusing!!!!!!
I 'm glad that i have online friends who know what they are talking about! I would beat my head against the wall if it wasn't for this site!:wink:

Minnie
03-24-2006, 07:24 AM
Emily,
It is confusing. Sometimes it makes my brain hurt. LOL

What I was getting at was the fact that you said he had Rotavirus the time he started the med. I mean that would make perfect sense that he might be sensitive to the lactulose in the med at that time and while he recovered.

Lactose intol and milk allergy are 2 totally seperate things. I hope you checked out that link about lactose intol I gave you. It explains it much more simply than any other article I read.

Someone with a milk allergy can handle lactose just fine. Remeber are breast milk is chuck full of it too, and other mammals milk.

Now go here and read about milk allergy.
http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/food-sensitivity.html

Now with all that said
a protein allergy can cause reflux or can "mock" it or make it way worse.
Here's an article on EE
http://www.childrensmemorial.org/cme/online/article.asp?articleID=125

This is why most doctors try to rule this out as the cause of infant reflux first.
I know plenty of mothers who just by switching to a hypo formula or eliminating dairy from their diets, made their childs reflux go completely away, and within weeks they were able to take their children off meds.

But this has nothing to do with lactose.


Eric always had red rimmed, watery eyes, stuffy nose, etc.
But I don't think it was due to any allergy (did lot's of experimenting) it was because the refluxed food and acid were upseting and irritating his upper respitory tract, and this could be what's going on or was going on with your guy. Not to mention their poor sleeping, due to refluxing contributes to this too.

It's such a hard puzzle to figure out. So many different symtoms and behaviors that are interchangable. It's crazy.

Eric didn't do well with prilosec either. He was misserable on it. So much so I didn't even make it past the 4 day mark when we were trying it. I don't know if it was because of the lactose (went through the same thoughts you are right now) or not but he wasn't well at all while on it, and something obviously was hurting him, and his breathing was very labored. (no extra gas though or lower digestive problems) We went back to "so so" zantac and that's all he's taken ever since. First, this was because the only PPI they (the doc office we used at the time) prescrbed was prilosec. Then It was because I was afraid of the same reaction with other PPI's.
Even though we are through the woods somewhat now, I still look back and wished I tried Prevacid, or one of the others. Maybe I could have helped him be more comfortable through the whole ordeal, not to mention zantac made him constipated.

Anyway,
what I'm getting at is prilosec isn't for every baby. Is this because of the lactose it contains? I highly doubt it. Even people who are lactose intol can handle small ammounts fine, and can even eat yogurt. I hope what ever your next step is, it's a step in the right dirrection and your baby feels better soon

Emily M
03-24-2006, 11:22 AM
Minnie, thank you so much. That helped me.
The ped. thinks that maybe I didn't give the solutabs enough time to start working. Or, that his dosage was too high and he was having a reaction to it.
So, we are going to get it compounded to see how that does.
**sigh** I am so tired of guessing games! KWIM!?